https://wiki.endsoftwarepatents.org/wiki?title=Open_Invention_Network&feed=atom&action=historyOpen Invention Network - Revision history2024-03-28T12:23:05ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.31.16https://wiki.endsoftwarepatents.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Invention_Network&diff=37577&oldid=prev150.101.221.106 at 02:53, 19 August 20152015-08-19T02:53:13Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This is useful, and joining OIN is a good idea, but the effectiveness is limited.  If a company wants to use their patents against free software, they obviously won't join this club.  Club members are thus mostly getting protection from companies that had no intention to attack them anyway.  The benefits are that:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This is useful, and joining OIN is a good idea, but the effectiveness is limited.  If a company wants to use their patents against free software, they obviously won't join this club.  Club members are thus mostly getting protection from companies that had no intention to attack them anyway.  The benefits are that:</div></td></tr>
</table>150.101.221.106https://wiki.endsoftwarepatents.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Invention_Network&diff=37431&oldid=prev150.101.221.106 at 01:24, 25 April 20152015-04-25T01:24:11Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This is useful, and joining OIN is a good idea, but the effectiveness is limited.  If a company wants to use their patents against free software, they obviously won't join this club.  Club members are thus mostly getting protection from companies that had no intention to attack them anyway.  The benefits are that:</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This is useful, and joining OIN is a good idea, but the effectiveness is limited.  If a company wants to use their patents against free software, they obviously won't join this club.  Club members are thus mostly getting protection from companies that had no intention to attack them anyway.  The benefits are that:</div></td></tr>
</table>150.101.221.106https://wiki.endsoftwarepatents.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Invention_Network&diff=34806&oldid=prevCiaran: make benefits a little clearer2014-01-20T18:27:07Z<p>make benefits a little clearer</p>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* </ins>when a company joins, they can't turn aggressive later</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The worrying part is that OIN is greatly overrated by many software developers.  This may reduce support for campaigns against software patents.  And this may be one of the goals of OIN, since OIN is not against [[software patents]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/12/08/a-no-fly-zone-to-protect-linux-from-patent-trolls/|title=A no-fly zone to protect Linux from patent trolls|quote="We're not anti-patent by any stretch of the imagination," says Bergelt. "More patents is fine with me, as long as they're high quality. Quality is the drum we beat."}}</ref> and <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">it's </del>mostly owned by companies that are pro-software-patent.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The worrying part is that OIN is greatly overrated by many software developers.  This may reduce support for campaigns against software patents.  And this may be one of the goals of OIN, since OIN is not against [[software patents]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/12/08/a-no-fly-zone-to-protect-linux-from-patent-trolls/|title=A no-fly zone to protect Linux from patent trolls|quote="We're not anti-patent by any stretch of the imagination," says Bergelt. "More patents is fine with me, as long as they're high quality. Quality is the drum we beat."}}</ref> and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">is </ins>mostly owned by companies that are pro-software-patent.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Other projects are <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">also </del>dubious, such as [[defensive publication]].  This project consumes the time and energy of the software development community, and may make software development more dangerous because it doesn't prevent others from patenting a thicket ''around'' the published idea, and may actually be an encouragement to do so (see [[Publishing information is made dangerous]]).</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Other projects are <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">of </ins>dubious <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">value</ins>, such as [[defensive publication]].  This project consumes the time and energy of the software development community, and may make software development more dangerous because it doesn't prevent others from patenting a thicket ''around'' the published idea, and may actually be an encouragement to do so (see [[Publishing information is made dangerous]]).</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Patent non-aggression club==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Patent non-aggression club==</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The core of OIN's licensee agreement is a licence grant from each licensee, allowing all other licensees to distribute the list of [[free software]] packages:<ref>http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/pat_linuxdefpop.html</ref> which OIN calls the "Linux System"</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The core of OIN's licensee agreement is a licence grant from each licensee, allowing all other licensees to distribute the list of [[free software]] packages:<ref>http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/pat_linuxdefpop.html</ref> which OIN calls the "Linux System"<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</ins></div></td></tr>
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</table>Ciaranhttps://wiki.endsoftwarepatents.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Invention_Network&diff=34724&oldid=prevCiaran: is primarily a patent non-aggression pact organisation2014-01-07T05:35:22Z<p>is primarily a <a href="/wiki/Patent_non-aggression_pact" class="mw-redirect" title="Patent non-aggression pact">patent non-aggression pact</a> organisation</p>
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</table>Ciaranhttps://wiki.endsoftwarepatents.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Invention_Network&diff=34676&oldid=prevCiaran: /* Members and licensees */ note differences between Members and Associate Members, split section, note fees2013-12-18T23:44:12Z<p><span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Members and licensees: </span> note differences between Members and Associate Members, split section, note fees</span></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[Canonical, Ltd]] joined as an "Associate Member" in June 2010</del>,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">openinventionnetwork</del>.com/<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">press_release06_22_10</del>.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">php</del>|title=Open Invention Network <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Announces Associate Member Program and Recruits Canonical As Its First Associate Member</del>}}</ref> <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">but there's no transparency about what a Member or Associate Member is.  [[TomTom]] (from [[Microsoft v. TomTom (2008, USA)|the Microsoft case]] is also an Associate Member.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">The fees are not disclosed but are suspected to be US$20 million.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2013/12/18/google-to-co-head-open-source-patent-defense-alliance/|title=Google to co-head open-source patent defense alliance|quote=Though OIN does not disclose the capital contribution it requires of full members</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the past S.E.C. filings of others suggest that it must be at least $20 million.}}</ref></ins><ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">bizjournals</ins>.com/<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">boston/stories/2006/01/16/daily6</ins>.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">html</ins>|title=<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Novell pumps $20M into </ins>Open Invention Network<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">|quote=Novell did not reveal its stake, but in a regulatory filing last week Novell valued its investment at $20 million for a 20 percent stake in OIN.</ins>}}</ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[Canonical, Ltd]] joined as an "Associate Member" in June 2010.<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/press_release06_22_10.php|title=Open Invention Network Announces Associate Member Program and Recruits Canonical As Its First Associate Member}}</ref>  [[TomTom]] (from [[Microsoft v. TomTom (2008, USA)|the Microsoft case]] is also an Associate Member.</ins></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The worrying part is that OIN is greatly overrated by many software developers.  This may reduce support for campaigns against software patents.  And this may be one of the goals of OIN, since OIN is not against [[software patents]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/12/08/a-no-fly-zone-to-protect-linux-from-patent-trolls/|title=A no-fly zone to protect Linux from patent trolls|quote="We're not anti-patent by any stretch of the imagination," says Bergelt. "More patents is fine with me, as long as they're high quality. Quality is the drum we beat."}}</ref> and it's mostly owned by companies that are pro-software-patent.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The worrying part is that OIN is greatly overrated by many software developers.  This may reduce support for campaigns against software patents.  And this may be one of the goals of OIN, since OIN is not against [[software patents]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/12/08/a-no-fly-zone-to-protect-linux-from-patent-trolls/|title=A no-fly zone to protect Linux from patent trolls|quote="We're not anti-patent by any stretch of the imagination," says Bergelt. "More patents is fine with me, as long as they're high quality. Quality is the drum we beat."}}</ref> and it's mostly owned by companies that are pro-software-patent.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Other projects are also dubious, such as [[defensive publication]].  This project consumes the time and energy of the software development community, and may make software development more dangerous because it doesn't prevent others from patenting a thicket ''around'' the published idea, and may actually be an encouragement to do so.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Other projects are also dubious, such as [[defensive publication]].  This project consumes the time and energy of the software development community, and may make software development more dangerous because it doesn't prevent others from patenting a thicket ''around'' the published idea, and may actually be an encouragement to do so <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">(see [[Publishing information is made dangerous]])</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Patent non-aggression club==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Patent non-aggression club==</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The core of OIN's licensee agreement is a licence grant from each licensee, allowing all other licensees to distribute the list of [[free software]] packages<ref>http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/pat_linuxdefpop.html</ref> which OIN calls the "Linux System"<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The core of OIN's licensee agreement is a licence grant from each licensee, allowing all other licensees to distribute the list of [[free software]] packages<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</ins><ref>http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/pat_linuxdefpop.html</ref> which OIN calls the "Linux System"</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">* [[Google]] - joined December 2013<ref>http://www.muktware.com/2013/12/google-joins-oin-board-strengthens-commitment-open-source/17849</ins></ref></div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Canonical, Ltd]] joined as an "Associate Member" in June 2010,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/press_release06_22_10.php|title=Open Invention Network Announces Associate Member Program and Recruits Canonical As Its First Associate Member}}</ref> but there's no transparency about what a Member or Associate Member is.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>[[Canonical, Ltd]] joined as an "Associate Member" in June 2010,<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/press_release06_22_10.php|title=Open Invention Network Announces Associate Member Program and Recruits Canonical As Its First Associate Member}}</ref> but there's no transparency about what a Member or Associate Member is<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">.  [[TomTom]] (from [[Microsoft v. TomTom (2008, USA)|the Microsoft case]] is also an Associate Member</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As of June 2012, OIN has about 500 licensees.<ref>http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/licensees.php</ref>  Licensees with notable patent histories include Barracuda Networks,<ref>http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/news_and_events/index.php?nid=216</ref> [[Canonical, Ltd]], [[Google]], OpenMoko, openWrt, [[Oracle]], [[Tom Tom]] (see [[Microsoft v. TomTom (2008, USA)|MS v. Tom Tom]]), and [[Turbolinux]].</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>As of June 2012, OIN has about 500 licensees.<ref>http://www.openinventionnetwork.com/licensees.php</ref>  Licensees with notable patent histories include Barracuda Networks,<ref>http://www.barracudanetworks.com/ns/news_and_events/index.php?nid=216</ref> [[Canonical, Ltd]], [[Google]], OpenMoko, openWrt, [[Oracle]], [[Tom Tom]] (see [[Microsoft v. TomTom (2008, USA)|MS v. Tom Tom]]), and [[Turbolinux]].</div></td></tr>
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</table>Ciaranhttps://wiki.endsoftwarepatents.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Invention_Network&diff=32594&oldid=prevCiaran: stilll trying to get the balance of the intro right - OIN is doing good stuff, but they're not people from the anti-swpat side...2012-06-11T09:14:38Z<p>stilll trying to get the balance of the intro right - OIN is doing good stuff, but they're not people from the anti-swpat side...</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Open Invention Network''' ('''OIN''') is <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">primarily </del>a big patent non-aggression club.  They maintain a list of popular [[free software]] packages and licensees grant each other a licence to use all their patents for that list of free software packages.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Open Invention Network''' ('''OIN''')<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'s main project </ins>is a big patent non-aggression club.  They maintain a list of popular [[free software]] packages and <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">500+ </ins>licensees grant each other a licence to use all their patents for that list of free software packages.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This is useful, and joining OIN is a good idea, but the effectiveness is <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">very </del>limited<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, and very overrated</del>.  If a company wants to use their patents against free software, they obviously won't join this club.  Club members are thus mostly getting protection from companies that had no intention to attack them anyway.  <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">OIN's approach will never make software developers safe from patents</del>, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">and it</del>'<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">s not their intention: OIN is not against [[software patents]]</del>.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"><ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/12/08/a-no-fly-zone-</del>to<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-protect-linux-from-patent-trolls/|title=A no-fly zone </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">protect Linux from patent trolls|quote="We're not anti-patent by any stretch </del>of the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">imagination," says Bergelt</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"More patents </del>is <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">fine with me, as long as they're high quality</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Quality is the drum we beat</del>.<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"}}</ref></del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This is useful, and joining OIN is a good idea, but the effectiveness is limited.  If a company wants to use their patents against free software, they obviously won't join this club.  Club members are thus mostly getting protection from companies that had no intention to attack them anyway.  <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">The benefit is that when a company joins</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">they can</ins>'<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">t turn aggressive later</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> And some partially aggressive companies may decide </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">join and give up their aggressive capabilities in return for access </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the patents </ins>of the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">other members</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> So it </ins>is <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">good</ins>. <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> But limited</ins>.</div></td></tr>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">benefit </del>is that <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">when a company joins, they can't turn aggressive later</del>.  And <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">some partially aggressive companies </del>may <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">decide </del>to <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">join and give up their aggressive capabilities in return for access </del>to the patents <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">of </del>the <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">other members</del>. <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> So </del>it <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">is good.  But limited</del>.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">worrying part </ins>is that <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">OIN is greatly overrated by many software developers.  This may reduce support for campaigns against software patents</ins>.  And <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">this </ins>may <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">be one of the goals of OIN, since OIN is not against [[software patents]]<ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/12/08/a-no-fly-zone-</ins>to<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-protect-linux-from-patent-trolls/|title=A no-fly zone </ins>to <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">protect Linux from patent trolls|quote="We're not anti-patent by any stretch of </ins>the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">imagination," says Bergelt. "More </ins>patents <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">is fine with me, as long as they're high quality. Quality is </ins>the <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">drum we beat</ins>.<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">"}}</ref> and </ins>it<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">'s mostly owned by companies that are pro-software-patent</ins>.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">OIN has other smaller </del>projects, <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">discussed below</del>.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">Other </ins>projects <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">are also dubious</ins>, <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">such as [[defensive publication]].  This project consumes the time and energy of the software development community, and may make software development more dangerous because it doesn't prevent others from patenting a thicket ''around'' the published idea, and may actually be an encouragement to do so</ins>.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Patent non-aggression club==</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>==Patent non-aggression club==</div></td></tr>
</table>Ciaranhttps://wiki.endsoftwarepatents.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Invention_Network&diff=32589&oldid=prevCiaran: mostly / only2012-06-08T11:33:38Z<p>mostly / only</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Open Invention Network''' ('''OIN''') is primarily a big patent non-aggression club.  They maintain a list of popular [[free software]] packages and licensees grant each other a licence to use all their patents for that list of free software packages.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Open Invention Network''' ('''OIN''') is primarily a big patent non-aggression club.  They maintain a list of popular [[free software]] packages and licensees grant each other a licence to use all their patents for that list of free software packages.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This is useful, and joining OIN is a good idea, but the effectiveness is very limited, and very overrated.  If a company wants to use their patents against free software, they obviously won't join <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">the </del>club.  Club members are thus <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">only </del>getting protection from companies that had no intention to attack them anyway.  OIN's approach will never make software developers safe from patents, and it's not their intention: OIN is not against [[software patents]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/12/08/a-no-fly-zone-to-protect-linux-from-patent-trolls/|title=A no-fly zone to protect Linux from patent trolls|quote="We're not anti-patent by any stretch of the imagination," says Bergelt. "More patents is fine with me, as long as they're high quality. Quality is the drum we beat."}}</ref></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This is useful, and joining OIN is a good idea, but the effectiveness is very limited, and very overrated.  If a company wants to use their patents against free software, they obviously won't join <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">this </ins>club.  Club members are thus <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">mostly </ins>getting protection from companies that had no intention to attack them anyway.  OIN's approach will never make software developers safe from patents, and it's not their intention: OIN is not against [[software patents]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/12/08/a-no-fly-zone-to-protect-linux-from-patent-trolls/|title=A no-fly zone to protect Linux from patent trolls|quote="We're not anti-patent by any stretch of the imagination," says Bergelt. "More patents is fine with me, as long as they're high quality. Quality is the drum we beat."}}</ref></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The benefit is that when a company joins, they can't turn aggressive later.  And some partially aggressive companies may decide to join and give up their aggressive capabilities in return for access to the patents of the other members.  So it is good.  But limited.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The benefit is that when a company joins, they can't turn aggressive later.  And some partially aggressive companies may decide to join and give up their aggressive capabilities in return for access to the patents of the other members.  So it is good.  But limited.</div></td></tr>
</table>Ciaranhttps://wiki.endsoftwarepatents.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Invention_Network&diff=32588&oldid=prevCiaran: clearer2012-06-08T01:56:51Z<p>clearer</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Open Invention Network''' ('''OIN''') is primarily a big patent non-aggression club.  They maintain a list of popular [[free software]] packages and licensees grant each other a licence to use all their patents for that list of free software packages.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Open Invention Network''' ('''OIN''') is primarily a big patent non-aggression club.  They maintain a list of popular [[free software]] packages and licensees grant each other a licence to use all their patents for that list of free software packages.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This is useful, and joining OIN is a good idea, but the effectiveness is very limited, and very overrated.  If a company wants to use their patents against free software, they obviously won't join the club.  Club members are thus only getting protection from companies that had no intention to attack them anyway.  OIN's approach will never make software developers safe from patents, and it's not their intention: <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">they're </del>not against [[software patents]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/12/08/a-no-fly-zone-to-protect-linux-from-patent-trolls/|title=A no-fly zone to protect Linux from patent trolls|quote="We're not anti-patent by any stretch of the imagination," says Bergelt. "More patents is fine with me, as long as they're high quality. Quality is the drum we beat."}}</ref></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This is useful, and joining OIN is a good idea, but the effectiveness is very limited, and very overrated.  If a company wants to use their patents against free software, they obviously won't join the club.  Club members are thus only getting protection from companies that had no intention to attack them anyway.  OIN's approach will never make software developers safe from patents, and it's not their intention: <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">OIN is </ins>not against [[software patents]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/12/08/a-no-fly-zone-to-protect-linux-from-patent-trolls/|title=A no-fly zone to protect Linux from patent trolls|quote="We're not anti-patent by any stretch of the imagination," says Bergelt. "More patents is fine with me, as long as they're high quality. Quality is the drum we beat."}}</ref></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The benefit is that when a company joins, they can't turn aggressive later.  And some partially aggressive companies may decide to join and give up their aggressive capabilities in return for access to the patents of the other members.  So it is good.  But limited.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The benefit is that when a company joins, they can't turn aggressive later.  And some partially aggressive companies may decide to join and give up their aggressive capabilities in return for access to the patents of the other members.  So it is good.  But limited.</div></td></tr>
</table>Ciaranhttps://wiki.endsoftwarepatents.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Invention_Network&diff=32587&oldid=prevCiaran: change order2012-06-08T01:56:01Z<p>change order</p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Open Invention Network''' ('''OIN''') is primarily a big patent non-aggression club.  They maintain a list of popular [[free software]] packages and licensees grant each other a licence to use all their patents for that list of free software packages.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>'''Open Invention Network''' ('''OIN''') is primarily a big patent non-aggression club.  They maintain a list of popular [[free software]] packages and licensees grant each other a licence to use all their patents for that list of free software packages.</div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This is useful, and joining OIN is a good idea, but the effectiveness is very limited, and very overrated.  OIN's approach will never make software developers safe from patents, and it's not their intention: they're not against [[software patents]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/12/08/a-no-fly-zone-to-protect-linux-from-patent-trolls/|title=A no-fly zone to protect Linux from patent trolls|quote="We're not anti-patent by any stretch of the imagination," says Bergelt. "More patents is fine with me, as long as they're high quality. Quality is the drum we beat."}}</ref> <del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> If a company wants to use their patents against free software, they obviously won't join the club.  Club members are thus only getting protection from companies that had no intention to attack them anyway.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>This is useful, and joining OIN is a good idea, but the effectiveness is very limited, and very overrated<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">.  If a company wants to use their patents against free software, they obviously won't join the club.  Club members are thus only getting protection from companies that had no intention to attack them anyway</ins>.  OIN's approach will never make software developers safe from patents, and it's not their intention: they're not against [[software patents]].<ref>{{cite web|url=http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2008/12/08/a-no-fly-zone-to-protect-linux-from-patent-trolls/|title=A no-fly zone to protect Linux from patent trolls|quote="We're not anti-patent by any stretch of the imagination," says Bergelt. "More patents is fine with me, as long as they're high quality. Quality is the drum we beat."}}</ref></div></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr>
<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The benefit is that when a company joins, they can't turn aggressive later.  And some partially aggressive companies may decide to join and give up their aggressive capabilities in return for access to the patents of the other members.  So it is good.  But limited.</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The benefit is that when a company joins, they can't turn aggressive later.  And some partially aggressive companies may decide to join and give up their aggressive capabilities in return for access to the patents of the other members.  So it is good.  But limited.</div></td></tr>
</table>Ciaran